Nyt ur - Budget 30.000

[willy]

kristofferJ Skrev:

hannover_dk Skrev:...men hvor meget siger den?

Du kunne evt læse den?

I agree with that Kristoffer.I have been reading about watches for years.And no where have i read any expert who disputes the work that IWC put into the calibers of their watches.Omega or Brietling do not even come close to the build quality of a IWC watch and it has got nothing to do with being a snob.Or would you call people like Walt Oddet a snob John? That was a bit long out <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> It seems to me sometimes people will defend their favorite brands no matter what.Instead of looking at reality.Rolex and IWC are quite simply in a different watch class compaired to Omega or Brietling.And it has got absolutly nothing to do with branding or snobbery.They just make better watches! Willy

[baun]

willy Skrev:It seems to me sometimes people will defend their favorite brands no matter what.Instead of looking at reality. Willy

Så langt er vi enige - men vi vælger selvfølgelig selv hvilke experter vi vil lytte til. Og det er helt klart at du er subjektiv når det handler om IWC.

vh Baun

[willy]

Baun Skrev:

willy Skrev:It seems to me sometimes people will defend their favorite brands no matter what.Instead of looking at reality. Willy

Så langt er vi enige - men vi vælger selvfølgelig selv hvilke experter vi vil lytte til. Og det er helt klart at du er subjektiv når det handler om IWC.

vh Baun

I have written countless times critisizing IWC models Per.For example i have written several times about their Top Gun and Aquatimer new models ,that i think are a disgrace to the brand.So i do not think you are right there But even the models i do not like have better quality than the Omegas i like <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> I recently sold my Planet Ocean it was from 2010 .I replaced the rubbish bezel and stiched rubber strap on it before selling it.You would never see that kind of rubbish put onto a IWC or Rolex watch.Omega are trying but they still have a way to go. Willy

[hannover_dk]

Den kendte jeg skam for jeg har selv haft en 3536 som jeg også elskede. Jeg skrev netop at IWC er smukkere og mere forarbejdet, i alle fald end omegas 2892 baserede, men svært at vurdere mod deres inhouse. Patek kalibre er endnue smukkere/finere, men holder de længere og er de lige så billige i drift i.f.t. 2892?
Det er også mit point i sammenligningen for IWC.
Men kan sagtens elske den fine horologi og IWC er flot, uden straks at mene man lige skal trampe lidt på andre ure
Vh

[willy]

Believe me John i am not tramping on any watch brand at all.I have owned many Omega watches,and they are one of the brands i like.I am just giving my opinion on where i think they are compaired to IWC-Rolex.That is all. Willy

[MortenKN]

med tanke på at det er en person som er ny i urverdenen og som dermed måske vælger at flippe uret igen efter en periode (we've all been there), så vil jeg da lige give mit besyv med.
I klassen 25-35K er der IMHO INTET (nej, heller ikke IWC) der når Rolex til sokkeholderne, hvis man tager udgangspunkt i kvalitet, pris, gensalgsværdi, brandvalue, genkendelsesfaktor og design. Det kan simpelthen ikke diskuteres. Der er ikke noget urmærke som er så stærkt branded og har så kendt et navn som Rolex - på godt og ondt. Det må siges at være det sikre valg. For en førstegangskøber, vil jeg mene at det sikre valg, er det rette valg (hvis det selvfølgelig tiltaler) idet en nybegynder måske godt kan blive skræmt helt væk fra horologiens verden, hvis han/eller hun oplever et voldsomt tab på det første ur, hvis det sælges.
Mit valg med 30K på lommen? Rolex Explorer II 16570, hands down. Kan NEMT findes til 25-30K for et FLOT nyere og komplet eksemplar

[Kristofferj]

Jeg har endnu ikke prøvet at tabe på mine ure, kun det modsatte. Hvis man køber lidt med omtanke kan man sagtens prøve andre mærker. Her snakker jeg om seiko, orient og breitling.

[hannover_dk]

willy Skrev:Believe me John i am not tramping on any watch brand at all.I have owned many Omega watches,and they are one of the brands i like.I am just giving my opinion on where i think they are compaired to IWC-Rolex.That is all. Willy

Compared to HOW - All in all Omega will show the time for as long as IWC-Rolex and Patek - and will be cheaper to service - so - compared to how.

I know Rolex makes durable calibers - very durable - but to compare is not easy - they have different price from the start, the service cost is different, and in the end - they will probably live as long as we two do

Fine with me to want to pay for a new IWC -Rolex - Lange or whaterver - but dont do it to get a watch which can show you the time of the day - do if for 100 of other reasons - you love the finish of the brigdes - you love the history - you find the case sharper and nicer - you love the bracelet - but dont do it to know what time it is and do not compare whatches of different priceclasses without considering price/service and what ever

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[willy]

MortenKN Skrev:med tanke på at det er en person som er ny i urverdenen og som dermed måske vælger at flippe uret igen efter en periode (we've all been there), så vil jeg da lige give mit besyv med.
I klassen 25-35K er der IMHO INTET (nej, heller ikke IWC) der når Rolex til sokkeholderne, hvis man tager udgangspunkt i kvalitet, pris, gensalgsværdi, brandvalue, genkendelsesfaktor og design. Det kan simpelthen ikke diskuteres. Der er ikke noget urmærke som er så stærkt branded og har så kendt et navn som Rolex - på godt og ondt. Det må siges at være det sikre valg. For en førstegangskøber, vil jeg mene at det sikre valg, er det rette valg (hvis det selvfølgelig tiltaler) idet en nybegynder måske godt kan blive skræmt helt væk fra horologiens verden, hvis han/eller hun oplever et voldsomt tab på det første ur, hvis det sælges.
Mit valg med 30K på lommen? Rolex Explorer II 16570, hands down. Kan NEMT findes til 25-30K for et FLOT nyere og komplet eksemplar

I can see your point Morten especially resale value.It is a fact of life that with 30000 to spend a Rolex is maybe the best choice for a new guy.Most start with a Rolex and then progress to a IWC <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> .No seriously Rolex is the best choice for a new guy and many older guys Willy

[willy]

hannover_dk Skrev:

willy Skrev:Believe me John i am not tramping on any watch brand at all.I have owned many Omega watches,and they are one of the brands i like.I am just giving my opinion on where i think they are compaired to IWC-Rolex.That is all. Willy

Compared to HOW - All in all Omega will show the time for as long as IWC-Rolex and Patek - and will be cheaper to service - so - compared to how.

I know Rolex makes durable calibers - very durable - but to compare is not easy - they have different price from the start, the service cost is different, and in the end - they will probably live as long as we two do

Fine with me to want to pay for a new IWC -Rolex - Lange or whaterver - but dont do it to get a watch which can show you the time of the day - do if for 100 of other reasons - you love the finish of the brigdes - you love the history - you find the case sharper and nicer - you love the bracelet - but dont do it to know what time it is and do not compare whatches of different priceclasses without considering price/service and what ever

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Are you saying i should buy a G.Shock John <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Willy