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Mads Gjødesen Skrev:Her er TZ´s gradings. Det må vel være lig den gængse opfattelse!?

LNIB
A pre-owned watch that is in perfect condition and that is accompanied by the factory box(es), tags and documentation. No alterations from factory-delivered condition. The warranty papers must be stamped to establish the authenticity and validity of the watch - TimeZone does not allow sales of watches with "open papers." No bracelet resizing or marks of any kind. 100%

Mint
A pre-owned watch that is in very nearly perfect condition. Signs of wear are visible with a low powered loupe. May be a watch that is in LNIB condition but not accompanied by the factory box(es) or documentation. May refer to an older watch that has been restored, so long as the restoration returned the watch to very nearly perfect factory original condition. Working perfectly, keeping excellent time, needs nothing. 98-100%

Near Mint
Showing very light signs of wear. Faint scratches on the case, bezel, bracelet or buckle are visible to the naked eye. Completely original in every way. Strap shows light use - may be bent or lightly creased, but not stained. Bracelet may be resized. The watch is working perfectly, keeping very good time and needs nothing. 93-97%

Excellent
Evidence of use is visible to the unaided eye. Scratches are light, but more numerous than "near mint". If the watch has been restored, all original replacement parts have been used. Strap clearly used but no stains. No dents or dings are detectable, and the bracelet has little wear. Working perfectly, needs no repair or service. 88-92%

Very good
The watch shows what might be considered normal wear by a careful owner who wore the watch regularly. Scratches are evident, but no nicks or dings. May have replacement parts and/or a high quality redial. Running and keeping good time, though may need minor regulation. A sound, attractive presentation overall. 83-87%

Good
Nothing fundamentally wrong with the watch, though it has quite obviously been used. Running and wearable, but may gain or lose a few minutes over 24 hours. Case may show a few dings, nicks, or deep scratches. May have a redial that is not up to high standards. May not have all original parts. 77-82%

Fair
Well used, may require service and/or restoration to be useable. May be running erratically. Dial, case, and other major components may not be original, but no pieces are missing. Even an untrained eye could tell the watch is worse for wear. Some might call it rough. 72-76%

Poor
Shows abuse, requires service and/or restoration. May have major cosmetic flaws, missing parts, may not run at all. A speculative piece - 'fixer-upper' would be too generous. Not junk, but requires lots of work to be made wearable. 66-71%

Jeg vil mene at man umuligt kan argumentere for at et ur er mint (98-100%) hvis det er poleret. Hvis man vælger at polere et ur, er det fordi det har synlige ridser og brugstegn. For at fjerne disse skal der altså fjernes noget materiale og dermed kan et ur umuligt være min. 98 % condition i forhold til NIB. At jeg brugte ordet "sprit nyt" er måske også forkert. Det kan misforståes som om at et mint ur ikke kan være vintage. Det kan det jo sagtens.

Slut herfra. Jeg har sagt mit sidste ord i denne debat.

Mads Gjødesen

Jamen, så tillad mig også at komme med en afsluttende bemærkning!

Det er præcis det graderingssystem jeg refererede til, det samme graderingssystem rhag citerede lidt længere oppe!

Ifølge TZ's graderingssystem mener du stadig et ur ikke kan være poleret og MINT på samme tid - hvis jeg har opfattet dit indlæg korrekt.

Så bliver jeg endnu engang nød til at sige vi er absolut uenige, da jeg tolker graderingssystemet anderledes!

"May refer to an older watch that has been restored" citat slut! Hvis den restaurering TZ taler om IKKE må inkludere nogle former for polering, er jeg overbevist om de også havde nævnt det, da de fleste restaureringer af gamle klokker, inkludere en eller anden form for polering!

Det siger sig selv at denne polering ikke på være særlig kraftig, da det eller vil være umuligt at kvalificere uret til "nearly perfect factory original condition" citat slut.

Afslutnigsvis vil jeg blot sige at, det glæder mig nogen tilkendegiver de har lært noget af denne debat. Noget jeg mener samtlige dabatører kan være stolte af - selv om vi ikke er enige!

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Michael Reitzel