Mest holdbare urværk

[Oak]

Hvilke urværk er rigtig solide, og kan holde til det meste, hvis vi skal sammenligne?

Jeg kunne godt tænke mig at forøge samlingen. Jeg har lidt forskellige ure i tankerne.


Det ene er AP Royal Oak 15400 med caliber 3120




Så er der et Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Bathyscaphe 5000-1110-70B med caliber 1315




Jeg har også overvejet den sidste nye Vacheron Constanin Overseas 4500V/110A-B128 med caliber 5100




I øjeblikket har jeg et Seamaster Professional Co-Axial Chronograph cal.3300 som jeg er rigtig glad for.
Det vel er bygget over Eta 7750/7753 ? Hvor solidt/holdbart er det sammenlignet med de andre værker?






Hvor solide/holdbare er de nævnte værker? AP/Blancpain/Vacheron/Omega, og hvis de også kunne sammenlignes med f.eks. Rolex 3135, som jeg har hørt er ret solidt ?

[willy]

Sophisticated calibers like those in a AP-VC-Blancpain,can be quite solid.But they also have to look beautifull at the same time.So they are made with a different approach than say a Rolex,that is made with strength and easy service in mind.Generally a simple well made caliber will be more reliable,because there are less parts in it that can go wrong.My opinion is that the calibers you show here,are no where near a Rolex for strength or reliability.
                                         
If you want a really qualified answer to your question,you need to ask a watchmaker who is used to sevicing these watches.Another thing you should bear in mind,is that watches like the AP-VC-Patek etc etc,do not often get the hard use of other types of watches.Because of the prices,people tend to treat them gently I personally would never ever buy a high end watch,for hard use.

[stenstrupigen]

Rolex værket af dem du viser er nok det mest solide. Men ellers quartz er bedst. Finere urværker er ofte ikke glade for hård behandling.

[Oak]

okay, en af de ting der gør jeg kigger mere på nævnte ure(AP/VC/Blancpain) end f.eks. Rolex er at jeg godt kan lide de flotte værker, og samtidigt at man kan se dem på bagsiden. Men det kan jo selvfølgelig godt blive et problem, hvis de langt fra er lige så solide/holdbare som f.eks. Rolex 3135.

Grunden til at jeg bringer det på banen er, at det næste ur jeg vil købe vil jeg have på stort set 24/7. Og skal bruges til alt uden jeg skal tage alt for meget hensyn. Og så er det jo passende at jeg kan snakke lidt med jer om det, for det vil være super ærgerligt at købe sådan et ur, hvis det går i stykker hvert øjeblik.

Så jeg kan jo allerede forstå på jer begge at nogle af urene nok ikke er det rigtige valg ud fra hvor holdbare de er? Så et ur med et rigtig fint urværk skal jeg måske glemme alt om, hvis det ikke kun skal bruges til fint brug?


Ja quartz er jo også en mulighed, men syntes udvalget bliver meget begrænset, og så mangler det mekanikken som jeg godt kan lide.

Hvilke andre ure vil i så kategorisere som værende lige så robuste som Rolex?

[stenstrupigen]

Hvis vi ser bort fra at bruge lufttrykkammer med det og ser bort fra at du tit giver det hårde stød, så kan et hvert mekaniks ur tage en del men sørg for en god kasse og safirglas.

Så du kan sagens finde et 10.000 - 15.000 kr mekanisk dykker chrono eller non chrono ur, som kan holde.
Har dog også hørt at golf kan være hårdt for en del mekaniske ure. Som en mand sagde. Når urerne kommer over ca 10.000 kr klassen handler det ikke mere om kun holdbarhed, men finish, aftermarket service mv. Altså intet som har mere med holdbarheden at gøre. Så Omegas chrono er skam holdbar nok samt andre billigere ure med 7750 værk hvis der skal være en del mekanik i det.

[willy]

To be honest,i think Rolex make the strongest mechanical calibers you can buy.Rolex keep refining their calibers all the time,and i have never really heard of any problems with them.If i had to name a watch that combines good looks-prestige-reliability-and a watch that can be used for daily wear,that would have to be Rolex.Even though i personally think Sinn make better watches in the tool watch department.

[Avantismo]

Jeg kan ikke læse i dit originale indlæg at det skal være et mekanisk, så jeg vover lige pelsen 

Seiko 7C46

So lets dive alittle deeper into just what this 7C46 quartz movement is, and what features it possesses ...

First of all, The term "Prospex" translated into English terms means (Professional Specifications), and the 7C46 quartz machine is only found and used in the SEIKO Professional Series Quartz Dive watches, namely the Tuna series and the prior Professional Ashtray models.

They the 7C46 movement & the Tuna series cases, were built with a specific purpose and intent in there specifications and ultimate design; and that was to be the best professional tool divers watch made! (So nothing was spared or held back in there design or quality of manufacture)

As we know, "Seiko" actually is the original father of this realized quartz watch technology that actually came out of the real world commercial diving industry as a answer to having a divers watch that could handle the rigors of deep depth. Thus, they were designed with no cuts in quality or cost saving materials at all; but rather have advanced scientifically developed components and material in there make up.

The 7C46 is a (Hi-Tech) multi jeweled movement with extreamly "Hi-Torque tollerances and High efficiency" built in over prior 7 series quartz movements, which enable the 7-jeweled geartrain and pinions to motion & turn the hands in perfect sync to the energy-pulse, with much less kinetic effort via the electronic step motors that power them. Thus making for a highly accurate and efficient full size quartz machine to perform strongly with much less resistance.

hey also incorporate (dual-rate trimmers) which allow the watch to be perfectly synchronized for extream accuracy, which aid in the longevity and add to there lifespan, while running well with in the stated accuracy specs.

They also enjoy the added benifits of, Low-Drain electronics while providing High-Torque Power to the gear driven train and Oversized Hands for optimal efficiency & extended battery life. As an added plus, this caliber also incorporates the E.O.L. (End Of Life) Low battery warning feature, of the seconds hand ticking at 2 second intervals when the battery voltage is low, thus alerting the owner its time to replace the battery cell.

They also provide the Premium Benefits of being designed in a full expanded size, and are incorprated into the advanced Titanium alloy cases that house them, which are also very highly advanced designs on there own rite built with advanced shock protection built-in specifically for this movement.

The cases also provide "Enhanced antimagnetic Gauss's law & thermal compensational technology, as well as full Helium/Nitrogen gas Prevention & Dispersional technology.

They simply are just the perfect combination of the utmost in quality craftsmanship, to enable them to easily handle the various extream conditions of Commercial diving found around the globe, in any oceanic environment.


They also can be completely diassembled for cleaning & service many years down the road; that together with the other quality design features therefore make this movement, the absolute highest quality advanced Professional quartz divers watch movement in the world AFAIC.

These highly evolved movements, as well as the Tuna series Professional Dive watch cases & components, probably hold more advanced (patent designs) than any other watch in the world!

[Oak]

Det Seiko urværk lyder da ikke så ringe. Jeg har faktisk ikke rigtig haft quartz i tankerne. Det er jo selvfølgelig noget helt andet end nogle af de nævnte modeller jeg har haft i tankerne

[willy]

(27-04-2016, 11:14 AM)Oak Skrev: Det Seiko urværk lyder da ikke så ringe.  Jeg har faktisk ikke rigtig haft quartz i tankerne. Det er jo selvfølgelig noget helt andet end nogle af de nævnte modeller jeg har haft i tankerne

You should take a look at the Grand Seiko watches,and read some of the reviews about them.Quartz or mechanical just fantastic watches.

[Oak]

Jeg har faktisk kigget en lille smule på Grand Seiko. En af de modeller jeg godt kan lide er: SBGA031 i Titanium med 9R springdrive urværk. Jeg skal lige have læst lidt mere om det Spring drive, og om det er mere holdbart end alm mekanisk urværk.