Daisy

[pbr]

willy Skrev:If people need this institution to make them feel that they belong , and to give themselves a sense of pride in their country . Then i really feel sorry for them .

I don't need you to feel sorry for me - so please don' t !! I am quite content, Willy !

willy Skrev:And all the ridiculous propoganda about a sense of pride in our countries . Wake up ! You cannot name one country that has not commited crimes against humanity in the name of nationalism . It is not the institutions we should look up to , but we should feel a sense of pride in the humanity shown by the people who live in these countries . I was born in England and have lived over the half of my life in Denmark . I can see positive and negative things in both countries . But in reality the world is my home , and i do not need a ridiculous institution to make me feel at home . I leave that to the people . And if i feel any pride in Denmark , then it is for the great humanity shown by most of the people who live here .

I don' t se how the fact that you support the danish Monarchy rules out that you at the same time can belive in humanity ! In fact I believe that the danish royal family in the best possible way represent danish humanity !!

[Stensbjerg]

Kan du forklare lidt nærmere hvorfor du mener de er de bedste i Danmark
Til den opgave for det kan jeg ikke forstå...

[pbr]

Stensbjerg Skrev:Kan du forklare lidt nærmere hvorfor du mener de er de bedste i Danmark
Til den opgave for det kan jeg ikke forstå...

Hvis du læser, hvad jeg skriver, så vil du se, at jeg ikke skriver, at de er de bedste i Danmark til det - men at de gør det "in the best possible way"

[Stensbjerg]

Ok så omformuler jeg mit spørgsmål
Hvorfor mener du at de gør det på den bedst mulige måde "ud fra Danmark"

Fordi uanset hvordan man stiller spørgsmålet Så syntes jeg ikke det giver mening,
Danmark yder en kæmpe humanitært indsats ude i verden,
Især med tanke på hvor lille et land vi er.

Og den indsats kan jeg ikke se bliver stærkt forbedret,
Fordi daisy kommer og modtager en buket blomster...

[pbr]

Stensbjerg Skrev:Ok så omformuler jeg mit spørgsmål
Hvorfor mener du at de gør det på den bedst mulige måde "ud fra Danmark"

Jeg har tilkendegivet min personlige holdning, hvad jeg ikke har lagt skjul på at det er, og påpeget et par ting, som jeg synes bør tages med i betragtning - det betyder ikke, at jeg orker at indgå i en diskussion for at tilfredsstille din lyst til at diskutere, Stensbjerg.

[Stensbjerg]

Det er ikke en lyst Peter,
Men en nysgerrighed for at forstå den "anden side"

Men ud fra dit sidste underbyggende udsagn af dit synspunkt Forstår jeg dig nu helt klart og tydeligt,
så der kommer ikke flere "lyster" herfra i din retning omkring Daisy.

Ha nu en god og fredfyldt Søndag.....

[TioMalo]

Citat:I think the real figures would shock many people . But this cost , just like many others is not included in the statistics .

Willy, jeg fuld ud respekterer din ret for den royale antipati, men udokumenterede påstande, hivet fra den blå luft invaliderer din egen argumentation.

[Stensbjerg]

Dog fra hoften vil jeg påstå,
At ingen kan finde offentlige tilgængelige oplysninger der viser,
Hvad hele kongehuset koster om året med ALLE omkostninger indberegnet, John.

[willy]

Tio Malo Skrev:

Citat:I think the real figures would shock many people . But this cost , just like many others is not included in the statistics

Citat:

Willy, jeg fuld ud respekterer din ret for den royale antipati, men udokumenterede påstande, hivet fra den blå luft invaliderer din egen argumentation.

Citat:

John there are thousands of articles from both sides of this debate , and all you need to do is Google . What to believe is up to the individual . But i can assure you that the people who are against the monarchy have just as much documentation about their claims , as the contrived official figures . I am sure you do not believe everything the government releases to the public And it is easy to make any statistic look good , when you leave out about 50% of the facts . Just Google about the real cost of the monarchy and you will see so many statistics they will blind you . Documentation in this day and age proves nothing if the facts are wrong . Anyway you look at it , both sides are not telling the absolute truth in this debate . For me the real question is of a personal nature . Do i acknowledge these peoples right to use any of my hard earned money just because they belong to a certain family . Or respect they are given a special and priviliged place in society because of birthright . My answer must be no . This is a debate that could go on for ever , and i could use so much time looking for documentation . And you would have to do the same When one day in the future people are given the right to vote on this subject , then and only then will you have a real democracy in Denmark . And you supprise me a bit John I never imagined that you took everthing the government tells you , at face value .

[willy]

Stensbjerg Skrev:Dog fra hoften vil jeg påstå,
At ingen kan finde offentlige tilgængelige oplysninger der viser,
Hvad hele kongehuset koster om året med ALLE omkostninger indberegnet, John.

Citat:

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