15-06-2004, 11:56 AM
På <!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.iwc.dk">www.iwc.dk</a><!-- w --> under brugerforummet har jeg fået nedenstående to svar på mit spørgsmål: Inge kontra Automatic.
Svar 1:
Hi, mostly goods have a price resulting of offer & demand. That's the reason.
You also could ask:" why is the BLUE MAURITIUS stamp" so expensive - it's also made of paper" :=)
Sure you can find (technically sopken) indentical watches with the same calibre which are more than half the price of an Engineer.
SO: "But if one goes for a cal. 8541 watch from IWC because one wants precisely that cal. as engine inside ones watch, then perhaps one could do with a "plebian" Automatic? "
You are absolutely right!
Svar 2:
The automatic models do not have the soft iron casing or dial. Many of the earlier ones do not have water resistant screw backs.
Whether this justifies the additional cost of the original new Cal 8541 models in the 1960s and 1970s I can't say. Manufacturers do produce flagship models with additional features and a matching higher price even though they share many standard parts - the US car industry is particularly noted for this.
Today the price difference reflects the limited production of that Ingenieur (I have seen it estimated that production of the ref 866A was in the low thousands). Other factors are the watch's position as the flagship model of its time and also the fact that the large size of classic Ingenieurs is very suited to today's large watch fashion.
If you are interested in an IWC model with the Cal 8541, which I believe is undervalued but which has some very innovative features, try looking at the Yacht Club or its rarer Golf or Polo Club brothers.
Jeg kender Yatch Club, men de to andre Golf og Polo Club har jeg alrdig hørt om. Kender nogen her i foruumet til, hvor jeg kan få oplysninger om diise ure?
På forhånd mange tak.
Min konklussion p.t. må være: Ingenieur er (for) dyre, blot fordi de er sjældne - og måske er lidt bedre udført/konstrueret end de øvrige IWC-ure med cal. 8541.
Venligst
Stefan Garvig
Svar 1:
Hi, mostly goods have a price resulting of offer & demand. That's the reason.
You also could ask:" why is the BLUE MAURITIUS stamp" so expensive - it's also made of paper" :=)
Sure you can find (technically sopken) indentical watches with the same calibre which are more than half the price of an Engineer.
SO: "But if one goes for a cal. 8541 watch from IWC because one wants precisely that cal. as engine inside ones watch, then perhaps one could do with a "plebian" Automatic? "
You are absolutely right!
Svar 2:
The automatic models do not have the soft iron casing or dial. Many of the earlier ones do not have water resistant screw backs.
Whether this justifies the additional cost of the original new Cal 8541 models in the 1960s and 1970s I can't say. Manufacturers do produce flagship models with additional features and a matching higher price even though they share many standard parts - the US car industry is particularly noted for this.
Today the price difference reflects the limited production of that Ingenieur (I have seen it estimated that production of the ref 866A was in the low thousands). Other factors are the watch's position as the flagship model of its time and also the fact that the large size of classic Ingenieurs is very suited to today's large watch fashion.
If you are interested in an IWC model with the Cal 8541, which I believe is undervalued but which has some very innovative features, try looking at the Yacht Club or its rarer Golf or Polo Club brothers.
Jeg kender Yatch Club, men de to andre Golf og Polo Club har jeg alrdig hørt om. Kender nogen her i foruumet til, hvor jeg kan få oplysninger om diise ure?
På forhånd mange tak.
Min konklussion p.t. må være: Ingenieur er (for) dyre, blot fordi de er sjældne - og måske er lidt bedre udført/konstrueret end de øvrige IWC-ure med cal. 8541.
Venligst
Stefan Garvig

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