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Complications and tradition. - willy - 23-05-2012

Technical masteries and complications have all ways been the specialitys of brands like Patek-AP-JLC and IWC.There are other brands that make them today but none of them have the history of these brands.
Tourbillons have been the speciality of brands like Blancpain-Breguet the father of all Tourbillons.And of course Girard Perregaux master of the Three Gold Bridges maybe the most beautiful ever made.
Moonphase and Astronomical watches are the specialitys of Patek-Ulysee Nardin-IWC and Patek.
The Minute Repeater is the most expensive of all complications and few brands have made them.The brands that are famous for making this complication are Patek-IWC-AP
All of the above brands have been making these types of watches for over a century.They have a history of watchmaking expertise that puts them at the very top of Swiss watch brands.But in my eyes one brand is more unique than the others.Not because they make better watches than the others.But because they have covered nearly every aspect you can think about in watchmaking.And are without a doubt the Brand that have achieved more firsts in the industry than any other.That brand is IWC! They have covered such a broad spectrum of watchmaking unlike the other brands named above.
They made the first dive watch with a depth guage The Deep One.First diver to be waterproof at 2000 meters without the use of a Helium valve.First truly antimagnetic dive watch the Ocean.First antimagnetic watches Pilot and Ingenieur .The list is endless.They also make the Destriero Scafusia this is the most complicated serially produced watch in the world ever.
So if people on this site wonder why i have a soft spot for IWC and do not like them compaired to lesser brands.The answer is above for you to read.But i will say at the same time that in no way do i consider that IWC make the best watches out there.But i think they are quite special.What do you think? Willy

Re: Complications and tradition. - Steff_DK - 25-05-2012

Det er fedt når man har en favorit i det store antal af forskellige mere eller mindre kendte mærker Icon_e_wink
Kan godt forstå fascinationen af IWC.

Min er (selvfølgelig) Blancpain.

Hvis jeg kigger i deres bog for 2010, kan jeg se de "gør krav" på følgende:
  • Første automatiske urværk: leveret til mærket Harwood (1926).
  • Første automatiske dameur: leveret til mærket Rolls (1930).
  • Første moderne (dvs med envejs lynette) dykker-ur: Fifty Fathoms (1953).
  • Verdens mindste runde ur: Ladybird (1956).
  • Verdens mindste kalender og månefase værk: Kal. 6395, h: 4,90 mm. dia: 21,00 mm (1983).
  • Verdens tyndeste automatiske stopurs-værk: Kal. 1185, h: 5,50 mm. dia: 26,20 mm. (1987).
  • Verdens mindste repetition minutes værk: Kal 35, h: 4,85 mm. dia: 23,90 mm. (1987).
  • Verdens tyndeste splitsekund-kronograf værk: Kal. 1181, h: 5,53 mm. dia: 26,20 mm. (1988).
  • Første automatiske splitsekund-kronograf værk: Kal. 1186 (1989).
  • Verdens tyndeste tourbillonværk: Kal. 23, h: 3,50 mm. (1989)
  • Mest komplicerede serieproducerede automatiske armbåndsur: Blancpain 1735 (1991).
  • Første automatiske repetition minutes værk: Kal. 33 (1993).
  • Verdens tyndeste håndoptrukne værk: Kal. 610, h: 2,10 mm (1993).
  • Verdens mindste automatiske værk: Kal 615, h: 3,90mm dia: 15,70 mm. (1995).
  • Første dameur med fly-back kronograf (1998).
  • Første automatiske tourbillon værk med 8 dages gangreserve: Kal. 25 (1998).
  • Første kombination af split-sekund kronograf og tourbillon: Kal. 23F9A (1999).
  • Første automatiske værk med tourbillon, evighedskalender og 8 dages gangreserve: Kal. 5625 (2000).
  • Første equation du temps (dagens til-/aftag) armbåndsur: Blancpain Equation Marchante (2004).
  • Verdens tyndeste eveighedskalender værk: Kal. 5621, h: 2,91 mm. (2005).

Det jeg godt kan lide ved mærket er at de blev grundlagt i 1735, og aldrig har lavet et quartz-ur.
At firmaet består af kun ca. 120 ansatte med en årlig produktion på omkring 8.500 ure.
At urene bliver lavet af een urmager fra start til slut.
Og at de kan finde ud af at lave et ur der har en tourbillon uden det behøver være kedeligt at kigge på ... Icon_cool

İmage

Re: Complications and tradition. - Steff_DK - 25-05-2012

willy Skrev:They also make the Destriero Scafusia this is the most complicated serially produced watch in the world ever.

Der siges at nogle af elementerne i værket er bygget efter Valjoux 7750, hvilket nogle spekulerede over, om det var det, der gjorde at det var et mere pålideligt ur end Blancpains ditto ... Icon_e_biggrin

Under alle omstændigheder er IWCs "genanvendelse" af nogle værker eller designs vel også lidt af en IWC specialitet ...

Re: Complications and tradition. - willy - 25-05-2012

Blancpain are one of the brands that do not get the respect they deserve . I think it is a great pity we do not have a Danish outlet for them . They had problems a few years ago with a reputation for very slow service . But today nearly all top brands are slow inclusive IWC Icon_e_wink The workmanship and finish of all Blancpain watches is of a very high standard indeed . I think many of their lesser known models are a steal , as a used buy. Unless people write about different Brands and watches on forums like this , we can forget just how many good brands exist out there . Nice to see someone not writing about Rolex-Omega-IWC-PAM etc etc , for a change <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Willy

Re: Complications and tradition. - willy - 25-05-2012

Steff_DK Skrev:
willy Skrev:They also make the Destriero Scafusia this is the most complicated serially produced watch in the world ever.

Der siges at nogle af elementerne i værket er bygget efter Valjoux 7750, hvilket nogle spekulerede over, om det var det, der gjorde at det var et mere pålideligt ur end Blancpains ditto ... Icon_e_biggrin

Under alle omstændigheder er IWCs "genanvendelse" af nogle værker eller designs vel også lidt af en IWC specialitet ...
True the DS is based on the 7750 design . Because IWC wanted a reliable base movement . The 7750 has got only the basic design element in it when IWC have finished it . I have read a few times that many consider IWC complications to be some of the most reliable and simple to use , that you can buy . I have read a few nightmare stories about some brands complication watches. Willy