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rolex +skydning???? - jmj - 23-12-2009

hej drenge .
lige et spørgsmål inden jul .
jeg skyder hver uge med 9mm pistol
og revolver 357 magnum ,kan mine rolex ure
tåle rekylen ,eller er det best at tage det af?
skyder best med mit ur på .
GOD JUL
mvh jmj


Re: rolex +skydning???? - Stinger - 23-12-2009

Jeg bliver dig svar skyldig - men kan tilføje at det i hvert fald ikke er sundt at spille golf med sit ur på.


Re: rolex +skydning???? - Geodoc - 23-12-2009

Fra min harddisk's fjerneste afkrog, har jeg hentet en diskussion om emnet.
- Den stammer fra TZ Omega forum; men jeg håber det går an, "herovre på the dark side". Icon_e_wink

Active activities and Mechanical Watches, which are suitable?

Most modern watches are shock protected. In fact a TZ Omega Forum regular (Scottpalmy) inquired about this issue to Omega.ch:
After purchasing a SMP several months ago I Emailed vintage Info at Omega to check on date of manufacterer, and also asked:
"... can you confirm whether you recommend wearing or not wearing the Seamaster professional whenplaying golf."


The reply from Omega:

Your watch, as every other OMEGA, has a shock-protected movement,
hence normal sports activities are not endangering the functions of yourtimepiece.
thank you for having selected OMEGA !
best regards
John R. Diethelm
Vintage Information


So, if you'd like, you can contact Omega.ch and inquire about your watch. Or you might want to play things more conservatively...

With a manual wind the activities that would be of concern would be high contact/collision sports like Football, Baseball, Polo, and the like.
High recoil activities such as target and trap shooting or hunting should not be a problem unless you wear the watch on your primary shooting hand (right wrist if you're right handed, etc.).
With shooting most of the recoil goes into the strong or primary shooting hand.

If you are shooting pistol your wrist would typically be on off hand, with rifle and shotgun your watch hand would typically be on the fore grip and not as subject to physical shock as your trigger hand would be as it is closer to the shoulder stock.
Of course if your active activities include operating a jackhammer an LCD Quartz watch like a G-Shock is recommended. That's what they are made for.

In all fairness an expendable, inexpensive LCD Quartz watch is almost always a better idea for high-risk activities than a manual or automatic watch.

For automatics an additional concern to the above are activities that generate a great deal of torque or inertia at the wrist/hands...
Activities such as Golf, Tennis, Polo, Baseball, Jai-Lai, Lacrosse, and the like are likely to cause the rotor to spin rapidly which is generally not a good idea... Sort of like running your car close to it's red-line at full throttle.

Many mechanical and automatic movement watches have endured long stints in extreme active use and survived no worse for wear. A number of movements are renowned for their toughness.
These include the Omega c.321, c.861, Lemania c.1341 (Omega c.1040 and c.1041), c.5100 (Omega c.1045), Valjoux c.72 and c.7750, movements.
There are probably others. In all instances in these cases the watches in question were: quality made, robust movements (not a lot of delicate complications), and in good mechanical condition and well serviced.

However, it is not advisable to wear an automatic for the "high torque" activities mentioned above, a more robust manual wind or a quartz would be better choices.
I would be more concerned about wearing an Automatic watch when shooting than I would be a manual wind, not only because of the rotor but also because there is more to go wrong typically.

Additionally it is not advisable to any vintage watch you were concerned about repairing or finding replacement parts. Certainly c.861 based watches are safe as they remain in production and spares are plentiful,
but it would be unwise to wear a c.321 or a Valjoux c.72 because of the increased difficulty of obtaining proper repair parts since they have not been in production since the late 1960's.
The same would apply to a Tuning Fork watch even though they are tough watches, because they are uncommon, have not been in production for many years and finding parts is increasingly difficult.
Wearing a chronometer (like a SeMPC or a Speedmaster 125) should also be avoided in order to preserve their accuracy... I'd also resist from wearing a limited edition or limited production watch for the same reasons.

................ Det var det lange svar, som Chuck Maddox gav.
Det korte er nej, ikke såfremt uret sidder på pistolskyttens skydehånd.

Med venlig hilsen - Geodoc


Re: rolex +skydning???? - Speedy - 23-12-2009

Stinger Skrev:Jeg bliver dig svar skyldig - men kan tilføje at det i hvert fald ikke er sundt at spille golf med sit ur på.

Ja de to ting kan trods alt ikke sammenlignes mener jeg.
Ved vi har diskuteret det før, jeg tror ikke et fornuftigt armbåndsur tager skade af 72 (rene)slag til en golfbold, hvoraf de 30 er puts.
Men det er selvfølgelig noget helt andet hvis du (ved et uheld, selvfølgelig) slår til den "store bold" Icon_e_wink .


Re: rolex +skydning???? - morgan - 23-12-2009

Jeg har i årevis haft Rolex på ved både salon (.22), riffel (.308 og 30 06) og grov våben (9mm, 38, .45 + semi aut. f.eks. MAC10 .45 etc) . Har aldrig haft nogle problemer i den forbindelse.

Mvh Morgan


Re: rolex +skydning???? - jmj - 23-12-2009

hej drenge .
geodoc det var godt nok et langt svar
trode ikke jeg kunne nå at læse det inden inden jule middagen
men tak.
morgan hvis det kan holde til dig ,
kan det vel også holde til mig,hvis ikke har jeg en god
grund til at købe et nyt
også tak til dig
god jul til alle ure elsker
mvh jmj


Re: rolex +skydning???? - Peter - 25-12-2009

Hej jmj

Prøv eventuelt at kontakte Tomcat27 her fra forummet, da jeg ved at han også ved en del omkring våben.

MVH Peter


Re: rolex +skydning???? - Larzovic - 25-12-2009

I Irak mødte jeg en britisk soldat som havde et gammelt gilt 5513 submariner. Det havde han arvet fra sin far. Det ur havde været i krig på Falklandsøerne, i det tidl. Jugoslavien, og to gange i Irak. Uden problemer. Det er selvfølgelig nok sundest for uret at tage det af, men skulle du glemme det i farten er det ikke noget der tager livet af det Icon_e_smile


Re: rolex +skydning???? - jmj - 25-12-2009

hej drenge .
larzovic jeg ville aldrig tage mine ure med i krig
træder man på en mine ved man godt hvad klokken har slået
nej jeg ville lade dem blive hjemme , endnu en grund til at komme levende hjem .

mine ure : rolex gmt 1961
sub 16610
mvh jmj.


Re: rolex +skydning???? - Mads Gjødesen - 26-12-2009

Tror vi er ude i den slags tilfælde hvor man plejer at sige at uret nok ikke tager skade af det, men omvendt heller ikke kan anbefales til brug inden for de genrer. Jeg har aldrig hørt om et Rolex der er gået i udu pga. golf eller skydning.

Mener jeg har læst en tysk test i et urmagasin hvor de havde analyseret urene før og efter en heftig masse golfspilning, og konklusionen var at urene sagtens kunne klare mosten. Her var tale om nyere modeller fra Rolex, Omega (ETA) og Tag Heuer (ETA).

/Mads