Baun Skrev:Ja jeg overvejer et eller andet udskildningsløb hvor man tager ure med lave stemmetal ud og fortsætter med resten. det bliver så til flere afstemninger, men på den måde kan de der stemmer på en som ikke får stemmer nok, få mulighed for at omplacere stemmen.

Det er jo vigtigt at det går rigtigt til

vh Baun

hannover_dk Skrev:måske skulle du tage alle med - også de tre vindere af første omgang - nå din sag

Jesper B Skrev:

hannover_dk Skrev:måske skulle du tage alle med - også de tre vindere af første omgang - nå din sag

Med risiko for at være en "partykiller", så er det nok en dårlig idé at tage de tre vindere fra første runde med, da de automatisk vil stjæle en masse stemmer fra dem, det egentlig handler om denne gang.

Til gengæld er jeg også fortaler for konceptet med indledende grupper og finaler.

hannover_dk Skrev:

willy Skrev:I do not look down on Denmark in anyway.But i do mean that for example a Reverso or a Tank for that matter are bigger Ikons in the world of watches than any on your list.I mean half the world knows what a Rolex Oysterdate is and about less than 1% know what a Brietling navitimer is.The market prices tell the truth here.Take a look at the prices on your list and compare them with the prices on my list of watches.In my humble opinion the greatest Ikon in the world of watches must be the Rolex Submariner.No other watch has been copied like this watch.It alone created a Industry for sport watches.And the price for them vintage speaks for its self.Omega speedy is the most famous Omega in the world,thats it.But a speedy did nothing new in the watch world,so in my mind its not a ikon,and the same i can say about Brietling.These watches did nothing to change the face of watchmaking so how can you call them Ikons? JLC reverso is unique in the watch world so is the royal oak they created something new like the submariner and changed the watch industry.They are true ikons mr.Hannova. Willy. P:S I was not giving just my own opinion please try not to put words in my mouth about what i mean or do not mean.I never do that to you.You like me have your own opinion lets leave it at that

I would not put words in your mouth, but you do often express things as if you are the international guy knowing the international watch world better than any - and no doubt you know a lot. I think we largely agree - but maybe look at the word icon from different perspectives. Most icons in you world would be something that changed the watch world - and I think you would have to go back a long time to find them.
I have nothing against the reverso or the RO but maybe I do not find then great inventions as such - changing the world of watches - I find the submariner belonging there - and maybe the Eterna 3000 as mother to 100´s of brands of affordable watches - or you have to go back to the invention of shock protection, bimetallic balances and things like that.

I do not THINK Baun is looking for the biggest changes or inventions, or for what mr everyman things - but for what is icons in the eyes of watch people. In fact, the vote in it self shows that - with the speedmaster as one of the three. NOT because it changed the watch industry, but for what it was used for and the fascination. MAYBE it did change things - we cannot let what was done undone to check - but MAYBE Rolex with its oyster and Omega with its speedmaster did more than we know or think, to keep the wrist watch on the wrist even today

Calling a vote - as the one we have had - and its conclusion - not correct - or the result coming from people without insight - even if YOU disagree - is not right.

All the best - have a great saturday night evening Willy -
John

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willy Skrev:Okay but i still disagree completly. willy

KlausM Skrev:Zenith El Primero opdager jeg nu er på listen. Det er da ikke et ur men et urværk eller hvordan skal det tolkes?
Mvh
Klaus

hannover_dk Skrev:

KlausM Skrev:Zenith El Primero opdager jeg nu er på listen. Det er da ikke et ur men et urværk eller hvordan skal det tolkes?
Mvh
Klaus

Jeg har i alle fald valgt at regne det bredt, som alle vintage zenith El proimero (da det jo er fastsat vi taler vintage her) med elprimero kaliberen - og El Primero på skiven- og der står jo faktisk Elprimero på skiven, så jeg vil vel også betegne det som et ur - ud over et værk, men jeg er enig i der jo er lidt forskellige, dog ikke så mange når vi er begrænset til Vintage - eksempel på en ElPrimero - her Rainbow -. men kunne være DeLuca og andre vintage elprimeroer -

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willy Skrev:El Primero one of the watch worlds greatest calibers ever.At last we agree on something mr hannova <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> Willy