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Has the value gone for Rolex. - Printviselig Version: +- Urdebatten / Urforum (https://urdebatten.dk) +-- Forum: Hovedfora (https://urdebatten.dk/forumdisplay.php?fid=79) +--- Forum: Urforum (https://urdebatten.dk/forumdisplay.php?fid=70) +--- Tråd: Has the value gone for Rolex. (/showthread.php?tid=83666) |
RE: Has the value gone for Rolex. - willy - 06-11-2021 I think most people unless they are blind and deaf,know how well Rolex hold their Value and make strong reliable watches.I do not think anyone here is disputing this.So why are we getting all the usual no brainer answers? I asked if there was real value in their watches considering the prices being asked for them on the used market today. If you compare them with lots of other watches for the same money or less.I named Blancpain as one example of what you could buy for the used price of a green bezel Sub.I could name many watches from say JLC-Glashutte etc etc where you get a much better made watch for your money. Some of the answers on here remind me of blind faith that things will never change.In my eyes Rolex make good watches,and i will maybe own one again.But to me they have become rather common,and something a lot of pack animals like to wear to show some kind of status,just like many people who buy Gucci or Audi cars.The image of Rolex is going to suffer in the long run,i have no doubt about that.The image of the buyers is changing.Before it was people who wanted a tough tool watch who bought a Rolex,today it is mostly about impressing other people.I was issued with a Sub in the English military,so i know that myself and others like me helped to give Rolex the image they have today.Let us say Rolex used us in their marketing on watch sites all over the world. The modern Rolex watches have not got much to do with these older models.The new ones are made for people who sit behind a desk.I just cannot imagine a modern soldier wearing a rolex into battle I think watches from brands like Sinn or Casio etc etc,have replaced Rolex as a tool watch quite a few years ago.So what we got left is a former tool watch that has turned into a piece of Jewellery.Nothing wrong with that in my opinion because that covers about 99.99 % of all the watches made today. But i think as a piece of Jewellery Rolex do not rate very well at all. Other brands offer better finished calibers with see through back cases for less or the same money.In my opinion you might as well wear something that looks good and is beautifully made rather than something that is in between. Rolex might as well go the whole hog and start to make some beautiful watches for a change. Another reason to stop wearing a Rolex is that you are more likley to get bonked on the head while out in the town,because even pondlife know what a Rolex Sub looks like This thread from the Rolex blogg is worth a read especially the answers from Nick Hacko he has serviced hundreds of Rolex watches. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=23431&highlight=glashutte+sea+q Has the value gone for Rolex. - Stensbjerg - 06-11-2021 Ok Rodney så holder vi det kort du ved også at en vare er det værd kunden vil betale. Så svaret på dit spørgsmål ligger i om Rolex kan få solgt deres ure til de priser de forlanger, hvilke må siges at tilfældet. Så svaret på dit spørgsmål er Rolex er alle penge værd, At Nick H syntes noget andet det er han i sin god ret til, det er jeg sikker på Rolex overlever. Sendt fra min ANE-LX1 med Tapatalk RE: Has the value gone for Rolex. - mikkelbl - 06-11-2021 (06-11-2021, 06:51 PM)Stensbjerg Skrev: Ok Rodney så holder vi det kort Den tilgang til tilværelsen holder kun i en transaktionsmæssig kontekst. Ellers må jeg give Willy ret her; Rolex som brand er inde i en kedelig udvikling, og er til fals for ussel mammon. Kunne jeg købe den nye Submariner, havde jeg gjort det - har prøvet ved to forhandlere, men er kun blevet mødt med en lettere overbærende og belærende arrogance; måske lange bukser, hvid skjorte og tilbageredt hår ville have hjulpet. Jeg burde være glad for udviklingen, idet mine Rolex sportsmodeller er steget 3-4 gange i pris, men jeg synes, det er trist, og jeg kommer (nok) aldrig til at købe Rolex igen. Ærgerligt fordi jeg synes at Oyster-lænken, især den i nyeste iteration, er den mest behagelige, velbyggede lænke overhovedet - jeg er en lænke-mand. Heldigvis findes der mange andre alternativer, dog indtil de også bliver "opdaget" af nyrige russere, kinesere og ejendomsmæglertyper. RE: Has the value gone for Rolex. - willy - 07-11-2021 (06-11-2021, 06:51 PM)Stensbjerg Skrev: Ok Rodney så holder vi det kort Again Jacob? Nobody is disputing Rolex can sell everything they make. I am talking about the watchmaking value in them. Gucci sell a lot as well,that proves nothing. I am just saying there are many watches out there better than Rolex for the same or less money.Forget about what they sell for,thats not what this thread is about. RE: Has the value gone for Rolex. - bjorn_e58 - 07-11-2021 Det er rigtigt, at det er lang tid siden Rolex var innovative, vel sagtens adskillige årtier siden, så der har altid være andre mærker, det for de samme pegene leverede bedre "urmagerskab", så egentlig er det vel ikke så meget nyt i det, du skriver willy. Jeg har ejet ure med langt mere spændende værk, glasbagkasse, og også med lænker, der snildt kommer på siden af Rolex også selvom de var meget billigere. Det som er blevet "værre" med årene er måske snarere, at man nu ikke længere blot set et Rolex på enhver hipster-cafe, men også på ethvert gadehjørne i provinsen, eller i ethvert charterfly med blege nordboere på vej til grisefest og solskoldning. Og et Sinn eller f.eks. Mühle er måske mere et toolwatch end en moderne Sub eller Sea Dweller (i guld/stål, skrig, gys, væmmelse!); men det med toolwatch er vel i det hele taget lidt outdated. Nogen af jer husker nok tilbage, da Mads Gjødesen var aktiv her, idet han havde et motto "et rigtigt Rolex er med plexi". Det mener han og givet mange andre med ham formentlig stadig. Men udviklingen gik, Rolex fil safirglas, som dengang var noget frygteligt bling. Det havde dog sine kunder - jeg selv inklusive - og nu er vi måske så en masse gamle, sure mænd, der synes at et rigtigt Rolex skal være 39mm og med en diskret lynette. Jeg synes da også, at de nyere på 41mm med en prangende lynette med markeringer der kan ses på 50m afstand er noget frygteligt bling. På et tidspunkt bliver det generationen efter os, der nyder økologiske spelt-bøffer og lokalt produceret tranebærvin, og som harcelerer over at Rolex er kommet ud på overdrevet og ikke længere har deres interesse. Måske har longbear ret, at vi generelt er i en ur-boble, og den er det jo afgjort ikke kun Rolex, der forsøger at holde spændstig. |