hannover_dk Skrev:

willy Skrev:And John why mention Oris or any brand ? Is it because we recently discussed Oris in another thread ? What i am writing here as got nothing to do with that at all .

I wish you all could keep to the subject i wrote about and comment on it . Some of us forget sometimes that we have many new users on this site who do not understand or remember what as been discussed in the past .

If we want new people to join this blogg , we have to give them something of intrest to read
and talk about . We are not i hope a old boys club where a few old members try to dictate what we should or should not say . Willy

well if not to you - then to me it is an illustration

willy Skrev:I wish you all could keep to the subject i wrote about and comment on it . Some of us forget sometimes that we have many new users on this site who do not understand or remember what as been discussed in the past .

If we want new people to join this blogg , we have to give them something of intrest to read

I keep to the subject - you just don´t like it - and I am sure you want new people to join, but you lack empathic understanding to a degree that is scaring, and have major problems appreciating other blog-writers way of seeing things - believing you are just about the only honest man on the "blog" and fighting a war on the evil watch-industry, stealing money out of the working-class people’s pockets
For what it is worth - I do however appreciate your comments in general - but I do not think you can get a good block without empatich understanding combined with knowledge of watches, and I do not believe there is all those "absoltes" about the best watch buy - Thanks God a lot boils down to taste and personal preferences, and not necesarilly to durability and second hand value
best regards John

willy Skrev:And the evil watch industry as you call it , is stealing money out of rich and poor alike . Have you with all of your years of watch intrest never learnt this simple fact ?
I mean do you really believe that without watch dog organizations buisnesses would regulate themselves . Come on John get real .

hannover_dk Skrev:

willy Skrev:And the evil watch industry as you call it , is stealing money out of rich and poor alike . Have you with all of your years of watch intrest never learnt this simple fact ?
I mean do you really believe that without watch dog organizations buisnesses would regulate themselves . Come on John get real .

That is actually now necessarily the fact either. It is without doubt that there are consumer issues which needs ombudsmanden to look at things – but you – as the warrior against the evil watch industry, does not help the consumer one even the smallest way forward.
You see yourself as a warrior fighting the most honest of fights, but it has no effect and is often not even just slightly justified
MANY watch companies are fighting for their life financially, even today. Yes Rolex and Omega – Seiko alongside others, but many other are fighting for survival, and your effort does nothing to help people steering clear of bad buys, they just satisfy your own opinions.
I actually also believe in the automatics of the free market. If people are willing to pay a price and enough watches from a certain brand, then that is the price of that brand. It is not dictated by specialist like yourself of reviews on how good or bad the movement is – it is dictated by many other things. This is what sets the price of a Rolex – or a Seiko or an Oris.
IF some of these factories were cheating or manipulating the market, then the market would detect it, and it would disappear out of the market again, and that does not take you to point the finger at them, the market will regulate itself.
I am not saying that no regulations are needed for consumer goods, but when it comes to the price of watches, against our – your or mine – understanding of quality – then the market will care for that, without our help

willy Skrev:Without critics the watch industry or any other industry would run riot over consumers .