because you are not worth it

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willy Skrev:

Tio Malo Skrev:Yes, surprizingly few actually (feels to be cheated because of missing in house movement / engine).
Take better cars, Bentley as mentioned or watches, say, Panerai for instance. Buyers come mainly from 2 cathegories, those with dough and - as here - the geeks / nerds. For the first cathegory it seems to be enough, the item is sporting the glorious name (what ever it is) and for the 2nd cathegory it will never be good enough, in house or not...
I thinks, thats the way - with more or less everything
Cheers - John

hi,there is still nothing wrong with telling the truth.i know a guy who was very pissed off,when i told him that the hublot on his wrist.was not entirely built by them.but contained a eta. caliber polished and stamped hublot. hilsen willy the angry

Also to me, it is a bit of a fraud when famous watch brands describe their movement as theirname claiber xxxx when in fact is is an straight from the shop-floor ETA 2824 - sometimes with the only "improvement that the bridge has the watch brands name on it. I suppose if you buy enough 2824, the engraving is more or less a give away from ETA.

Often i appears that they try to give someone the impression it is their own movement which I find wrong if it just a straight out of the factory 2824/2992 they use. Maybe that is just how life is, branding and selling hand in hand, and they don't fool us anyway .

I do not mind famous brands using an ebauche. Of course I also appreciate in-house, but it is quite fair to take an ETA 2892 - and sell a great watch at a great price with an absolutely full good machine.

The bigger question to me is when to call it straight out ETA 2892 and when it is OK to call it e.g.IWC 375xxx because of the fairly big changes they do to it, or if they should write ETA 2892 - I would not claim to have the answer to what would be right in such situations, but I understand IWC and the like of them, giving it an own name after working on it.

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